WHAT IS A PROPHET?
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The Word of God tells us that God will do nothing, before he first reveals
it unto his servants the Prophets.
Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his
servants the prophets.
Rev 4:1
The calling of a Prophet is a very Hard one to receive, To actually be Anointed by the Lord to speak forth what he reveals is even harder to do, in his timing. The Lord may reveal many, many things ahead of time, But few will beable to hear it.
Most Prophets we read about in God's Word have been very, very unpopular and have had very difficult lives trying to find a balance between needing to speak, and wanting to speak.
The need to speak is like a Fire within
Jeremiah 20: 8-9.
But letting it out to a people who don't even hear, or even study the Word, What is the Point?
A Prophet is a Person set apart ( man or women) who's only concern is being accountable to the Lord. This Prophet will speak when he or she is told and not be expecting any response or Praise. If there is a negative response this usually means The Word was right on Target.
But today we have a group of self proclaimed Prophets, most of which have mistaken the Word of knowledge for the Prophetic. We can all receive a Word of Knowledge or Wisdom from the Lord, but the calling of a Prophet is Largely for getting others ready for a Breakthrough in the Spirit.
Prophesying over others on a personnel level is not the Gift of a Prophet of God.
We all have the ability to Prophecy over our own lives, and can do so by FAITH, ( 1 Corinthians 12: 7 } ( Ephen 4:14 ) and we all have the same Holy Spirit, so why would you go to someone else to find out what the Lord is doing in your own Life.? That is like saying , I don't believe that the Lord will speak to me and I don't have a relationship with him, so I have to go ask someone else what he wants to say to me? That is like asking someone else what your Husband wants to say to you?
A Real Prophet will be told to speak things to the Whole Church, so Far ahead of time, most will not beable to Grasp what is being told. Or it will make others Really Mad, people will call him Crazy. Prophets like this will speak as the HAMMER OF GOD, which comes to Break in pieces the lies and deceptions of the false doctrines presently being taught. To bring deliverance from Bondage's Jeremiah 23: 28-29
People don't' want to hear that they have believed a LIE---- they don't want to No there lives have been in Error most of their life. So Prophets are not popular people. If a person who calls him or herself a Prophet is popular one has to Wonder?
Again this kind of person is usually only operating in the gift of knowledge and has mistaken it for the Prophetic.
We haven't had a Real Prophet in soooooo long----- We No longer No how to
discern one.
But it is coming.
A Real Prophet isn't selling anything!! He hasn't written another Book you need to read, Nor is he or she charging for an Word or meeting they Hold, A real Prophet isn't bring or Creating a New Movement you need to go to. They are Teaching and exposing Bondage's, and lies of the devil by UP HOLDING the LIVING WORD OF GOD. If he or she does have a meeting, it is to PROMOTE THE WORD OF GOD.
Most Web Sites of the Self Proclaimed Prophets, Looks like the Court Yard of the Money Changers, THAT JESUS OVER THREW.
They are Promoting their words, NOT HIS WORD!!!!!
They are selling their interpretation of his WORD, Not teaching you or
pointing you to FEED ON THE WORD!!!!!!
They are keeping his Church in Diapers Feeding on Baby Food, by allowing you to think there is something more than the WORD of GOD needed. Since they haven't really had a Prophetic Word that Opens your UNDERSTANDING they Falsely Assume God is moving in areas he isn't Moving in at all!!!
GOD is not Creating a NEW MOVEMENT for you to get involved in, he is not Gathering people together to talk about Revival or Reformation. He is not bring a REVIVAL.
What the Lord is doing, Has not been done before.
There is No model to refer to, No steps to follow from the past.
God is moving Individually on those who seek him, personally to OPEN OUR
UNDERSTANDING INTO THE MIND OF CHRIST.
Where is Hidden all the Treasures of Wisdom and Knowledge Colossians 2:3
He is coming to Enlarge our Mind to receive Directly from his MIND.
He is going to bring us out of our Limited, Earthly Vision of the Gospel to a VAST VISION--- BEYOND TIME AND SPACE.
So Stop running after the Words of others, get on your Face before God
and seek to Find him Right there with you, ready to grant you access to
the Hidden Wisdom in Christ, to be revealed in these last days.
Corinthians 2: 6,7 10
Romans 16:25
I Peter 1:15
Ephesians 3:9-11
FOOT NOTES ( strong Concordance )
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Old and New Testament includes Men and Women as Prophets.
OT 5030
NT 4395
4396
There is Included in the definition of a Prophet OT 2374 and 2367
A Group of Prophets, associated together, Proclaiming their own visions.
They are called Charmers, Wizards.
They are further described in Jereimiah 23: 16 on.
There are also Lying Spirits in the mouths of False Prophets, in the Last Days.
Kings 22: 20-23 cross reference Revelations 16:13-14
CHURCH HISTORY
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All Past Movements we call Moves of the Spirit have eventually led to Creating Another religion or denomination ( more Bondage)
Even during and after the Reformation there was another Movement called THE RADICAL REFORMATION.
This Group wanted only to separate totally from both sides, and be one in the Spirit, having No religious ties seeking Harmony.
Eventually the Radical Reformation became another Religious Organization called the UNITARIANS
The enemy will use any Movement to bring about another form of Bondage, one way or another.
God is not Creating Movements.!!
He isn't bring Revival !!
He is bring RADICAL REVELATION!!!!
One On One Meeting with Jesus MIND to Mind, Face to Face.
You have to Grow Up and and take Responsibility for your Own
Spiritual Breakthrough.
JESUS AND HIS WORD ARE ONE.
By
Ms. Terry Mosley/ rev
2004
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FALSE MOVEMENTS
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NOTE: This Movement was so FALSE that it is hard to believe anyone Ran after it. I was in a Church where it tried to start, and we got tired of it after 2 weeks, so it moved on to Toronto, where it took Root, and Many fell into Deception. This False Movement Created Many False, self proclaimed Prophets. (When is the Church going to Realize that the Fallen Angel's are Healers?) We have received many more Confessions after sending this out. TM
TORONTO PASTOR REPENTS
"The TORONTO DECEPTION"
It has taken me nine years to actually come to the place where I would write this story. Part of the reason was because I was not fully convinced that it is appropriate to speak out against weaknesses in the body of Christ publicly. Another reason is because it has taken years of soul searching to become convinced that what happened in the Toronto Airport Church was actually all bad or at least more bad than good!
For the past number of years I have called it a mixed blessing. I think James A. Beverly called it this in his book Holy Laughter and the Toronto Blessing 1994. Today I would call it a mixed curse concluding that any individual good that came from this experience is far outweighed by much harm and satanic deception. I suppose that therein has been my dilemma. I have tried to live my life in the fear of the Lord and Jesus told us that the unforgivable sin was the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Attributing to Satan what was in fact a work of God. If pressed as to whether or not the Toronto blessing is all God or all Devil I will still be hedgy, but I am convinced that Satan has used this experience to blind people to the historical doctrines of God, to produce fruit in keeping with repentance, to failing to test and discern the spirits and failing to test prophecy.
After three years of being in the thick of the Toronto blessing our Vineyard assembly in Scarborough ( East Toronto) just about self destructed. We devoured one another, with gossip, backstabbing, division, sects criticism etc. After three years of ‘soaking,’ praying for people, shaking, rolling, laughing, roaring, ministering at TACF on their prayer team, leading worship at TACF, preaching at TACF, basically living at TACF we were the most carnal, immature and deceived Christians that I know. I remember saying to my friend and senior pastor at Scarborough Vineyard Church in 1997 that ever since the Toronto Blessing came we have just about fallen to bits! He agreed!
My experience has been that the manifestation of spiritual gifts mentioned in 1st Corinthians 12 was much more common in our assembly before January 1994 (when the Toronto blessing started) than during this period of supposed Holy Spirit visitation.
During 1992-1993 when praying for people we would experience what I believe was genuine prophesy, deliverance and much grace and favour from the Lord. After the Toronto Blessing started, all ministry time changed, the only prayers were ‘More Lord MORE’, the shouting of ‘Fire’ the jerky shaking of the body with the ‘ooh ooh OOH WOOOAAH’ prayer. (I kid you not!)
On January 20th 1994 about 15 people from our church traveled over to Toronto Airport Vineyard in order to listen to Randy Clark, a Vineyard pastor from the USA. John Arnott had called our senior pastor to invite us. He communicated that Randy had been to the Rodney Howard Browne meetings and that the stuff had broke out in his church in the following weeks. John was hoping that something might break out with us too. We were only too happy to travel over. We were a church plant out of the Toronto Airport and we started in 1992. In those days there were three Vineyard Churches in Toronto. One Down Town church, Scarborough vineyard church to the east and the Airport Church. We were one big happy family. Because we were small in number we did special meetings, conferences etc, together.
The year before most of our leadership teams joined and had headed to Nicaragua for a short term missions trip. We had genuine love and fellowship with each other. Since leaving the Vineyard churches I have read a fair bit of analysis from the critics. Some make out that the Toronto Blessing was one huge conspiracy to lead the body of Christ into heresy. Heresy and apostasy I suspect may well be the result, but none of these destinations were intentional. I am honestly convinced that the leaders in the Vineyard churches are genuine born-again Christians who love the Lord, but have fallen into deception. They have not loved the Lord enough to keep His commandments. They have failed to obey the scriptures and have been led astray by our longing for something bigger and brighter and more exciting and dynamic. I am guilty of this sin also. I have preached renewal in Korea, the United Kingdom, the USA and here in Canada. I am genuinely repentant and in writing this story I would ask you the bride and body of Christ to forgive me. Especially the Pentecostal/ Charismatic Christians among you, for you are my immediate family theologically. I am an evangelical Christian, I always have been but I do not believe in the cessation of the spiritual gifts at the end of the apostolic era. I believe that it was my evangelical roots (my family are Baptists and I was born again in the Presbyterian Church.) that started to open my eyes to problems with this so called renewal. In hind sight I look back and think how could I have been so blind? I laughed at people acting like dogs and pretending to urinate on the columns of the TACF building. I watched people pretend to be animals, bark, roar, cluck, pretend to fly as if they had wings, perpetually act drunk and sing silly songs. How I thought that any of this was from the Holy Spirit of God amazes me today. It was loud irreverent and blasphemous to the Holy God of the Bible. I suppose in my mind I reasoned that as long as they did not teach any thing in direct violation to scripture then it was what we called the exotic. This is a buzz word for manifestations that could not be justified from a biblical perspective. I was taught from the pulpit that we had two options. The order of the nursery full of life and messy or the order of the graveyard, very orderly but dead! As a young immature pastor I wanted life with mess. I failed to remember that God wants us to become mature and grow up in him. I became disconcerted by the prophetic words that came forth especially one by Carol Arnott in which she had her bride experience where she was taken into the very presence of Jesus and said that the love that she experienced was even better than sex! I was shocked in my spirit and thought how can one compare the love of God with sex? When we suspected that demons were running riot in our services John Arnott would teach that we should ask are they coming or going. If they are leaving then that is ok! John would defend the chaos by saying that we ought not be afraid of being deceived, if we have asked the Holy Spirit to come and fill us then how could Satan come and deceive us? This would make Satan very strong and God very weak! He said that we needed to have more faith in a Big God to protect us than in a Big Devil to deceive us. This sounded very convincing but was totally contrary to scripture for Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all warn us about the power of deceiving spirits and especially so in the last days. Again we did not love God enough to obey His Word and the result was that we opened ourselves up to lying spirits. May God have mercy upon us!
Finally the penny dropped for me as I was rolling around one night ‘drunk in the Spirit’ as we would say. I started singing and as I rolled around the floor the Nursery Rhyme ‘Mary had a little lamb its fleece was white as snow.’ came to mind. I sang this in a mocking spirit and instantly my heart told me this was a demon. Instantly I repented and was in total shock. How could a demon get into me? Did I not love God? Was I not zealous for the things of God? Was I not nuts about Jesus? I knew that an unclean spirit had just manifested through me and I was guilty of great sin. After this experience I stayed away from TACF. I did not go back there any more. I did not possess the conviction to denounce the whole experience but thought that we where failing to pastor the Blessing well enough.
Even after I stopped going over to TACF, I had to pastor the fruit of
it. One example was when some of our people returned from a
meeting there asking us if we had all received the golden sword of
the Lord? I asked them what they were talking about thinking that
it was some prophetic reference to the Holy Scriptures but they
said, ‘no, it's not the Bible, it’s an invisible golden sword that only
the really pure can receive. If taken in an unrighteous fashion then
the Lord would kill you. But if you are holy enough to receive it
then you can wield this sword and it will heal AIDS, Cancer etc.
and bring salvation. How one wielded this sword was by
pretending to have this invisible sword in your hand and motioning
to strike people with it when in prayer! I thought while even in
deception at this time that the TACF had become Looney bins!
This was purportedly first received by Carol Arnott and then given
to the ones holy enough to receive it! Another thing was the
golden fillings in the teeth. We had people in our assembly
peeping down one another’s throats looking for the gold fillings
that God had placed there to show how much he loved them! In
all my time there I only heard one message on repentance given
by a visiting speaker from Hong Kong named Jackie Pullinger. It
went over like a lead balloon. We were not there to repent, we
were there to party in the Lord! After one year into the blessing I
spoke out at a pastors meeting and said ‘guys we have shaken,
rattled, rolled, laughed cried and bought the tee-shirt. But we have
no revival, no salvation, no fruit and no increased evangelism so
what’s the deal?’ I was soundly rebuked - who was I to expect to
see fruit when the Lord was healing his broken people? We had
been legalistic long enough and God was spending this time
restoring his wounded and freeing us from legalism I was told not
to push the Lord and the harvest would come in his time.’
I knew this was wrong because the Lord had commanded us to go into all the earth and make disciples! Not that everyone should take a sabbatical for who knows how long, while God does some strange new thing! Ultimately I left over something as controversial as the ordination of women. Personally I believe from scripture that women should not be pastors/elders in a local assembly. I could be wrong on this and there is much debate in the Church today but that is my conviction and in the Vineyard churches they were ordaining all the pastors' wives to co pastor with them. I am certainly for women in ministry but believe that the Elder/pastor role in a local assembly has been reserved for men. I did not write scripture but God willing I will have the grace from now on to obey it.
So there is my story. I could go on and document much excess, folly, sin and latter day reign teaching that manifest from the prophetic end of this Blessing but others have already done that. We sang about Joel’s army and the billion soul revival as if it were one of the Ten Commandments, and as always it was just around the corner. Next month, next year etc. Jesus said that when the son of man returns will he find faith upon the earth? And if he does not return when he does no flesh would be saved but for the sake of the elect he comes. This is a far cry from the dominionism that is being taught all through the vineyard/prophetic/ spiritual warfare movement. I honestly think that they think they are going to take over the whole world! While in the Vineyard I embraced a life verse from the Apostle Paul the phrase do not go beyond what is written!
To finish I just want to say sorry for the damage, that I have personally done by teaching things that are not correct biblically. I repent before men as I already have before God. I will not excuse my falling into deception. I did not bother to test things when the scriptures commanded us to do so. Everyone who was there when this thing started knows that what I write is true, they would just come to different conclusions especially if they are still promoting the ‘river!’
To those in the river I would say swim out, there are things living in the water that will bite you real good! I love the people of TACF and the Vineyard movement but I think that we have much to answer for and may the Lord open your eyes sooner rather than later. I suspect that when this letter goes online I will get bombarded by emails from both camps, some damning me for still believing in the ministry of the Holy Spirit and still walking in deception and some old friends damning me for exposing dirt or being negative about the Lords anointed! Well, the Lord knows my heart and by his grace he will guide me into all truth as I seek to know Christ and him crucified! If you believe that I walk in sin and error please pray for me that the Lord would forgive me and open my eyes. I will study the word to show my self a work man approved! I would call on all who read this to pray that the Lord would open the eyes of all who have been involved in this deception. Whether leader or follower, we are loved and the Lord is a forgiving God. He says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. I believe we are like the church in Laodicea, we think that we are rich, have prospered and need nothing, we do not realise that we are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind and naked. We must take the Counsel of Jesus and buy gold refined in the fire (which is his suffering, not a false spirit!), white garments to clothe our shameful nakedness and salve for our eyes that we might see again. Jesus is calling us to repentance and thank the Lord that he is, for it will lead us to true restoration with our Father! If God has forgiven me and opened my eyes then he can do it for all those caught in deception too. I will finish with a warning from Paul, he says if you think you are standing firm be careful lest you fall.
Sincerely Paul Gowdy.
-by former Toronto Vineyard Pastor Paul Gowdy.
2007
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A FALSE PROPHET
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I was going to a church once, when a Man named Paul Cain came and he was introduced by our Pastor and all Hell broke loose in that Church from that day on. I knew in my Spirit the minute he began to speak that he was a FALSE PROPHET, and I felt like standing up in the midst of it all and Yelling, Shut up I rebuke you Satan. I could write a book about what happened after that, but to make a long story short, My daughter and I got out of there that Day, and never went back. It became a schandel in the Body of Christ shortly after that.
Today I received a message about how he has been living in Sin, and you can read the message for yourself. However I strongly disagree that this Man ever did any thing Good. How can I say that? I can say that by the Spirit of Decrement the Holy Spirit gave me that day, when he told me to leave, and not come back, and from what happened in that church from that day forth. This Man left a trail of EVIL and his mere presence distroyed church's. It is a pitiful inditment on the body of Christ, when they are unable to really discern something till after the Fact.
I just recently had the Holy Spirit confirm this to me by giving me the following scriptures, twice.
Hebrews 6
4:For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5: And have tased the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance: seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
So for the Record, the Lord told me around 1988 that Paul Cain was a FALSE PROPHET. He confirmed it again this year with those scriptures.
Ms. Terry Mosley/
2005
Very Sad News
Paul Cain has been used mightily by the Lord to touch many lives in our times. He is esteemed by many around the world as a major prophetic voice and as a spiritual father. It would be hard to estimate the number who have been healed, delivered, or saved through his ministry. We have especially benefited from his friendship and ministry in too many ways to count. It is therefore with great sorrow that we publish the following.
In February 2004, we were made aware that Paul had become an alcoholic. In April 2004, we confronted Paul with evidence that he had recently been involved in homosexual activity. Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration which the three of us would oversee. However, Paul has resisted this process and has continued in his sin. Therefore, after having exhausted the first two steps of Matthew 18:15-17, we now have a responsibility to bring this before the church.
Our sincere hope remains to see Paul restored. We are deeply committed to Galatians 6:1, which states, "Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, lest you too be tempted."
We do not believe that Paul has committed anything that places him beyond the grace of God. We are hopeful that there are those who are more spiritual and wiser than we have been who can help Paul through a process of restoration in which we failed. We also remain open and desirous of helping Paul with his restoration process in any way we can. If restored, we believe that Paul can once again have an extraordinary ministry and be a significant blessing to the body of Christ.
We apologize to the body of Christ for our lack of discernment in promoting Paul's ministry while he had these significant strongholds in his life. We failed to see them until this year.
It is also a mistake to assume that others who were close to Paul or worked with him shared these same problems.
We also do not feel that this should in any way negate or reduce the great benefit that Paul's ministry has been to so many in the past. We hope that Paul can yet be restored and used again for the glory of God in the wonderful way that so many of us have been blessed to see in the past.
With our deepest regrets and sincerity,
Rick Joyner
Jack Deere
Mike Bickle
2004
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